SK-NIC-u nestačia viac ako 4 milióny za prevádzku .sk domény, chcel zdraženie o 30% bez verejnej diskusie

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DSL.sk, 14.10.2022

Správcovi domény .sk, spoločnosti SK-NIC, nestačia súčasné výnosy z poplatkov za domény a kvôli zvyšovaniu nákladov požaduje dramatické zvýšenie poplatkov za domény až o 30%.

Zmenu cien musí schváliť Komisia pre správu národnej domény zastrešovaná ministerstvom informatizácie. Podľa dostupných informácií ale takto závažnému návrhu nepredchádzala riadna verejná diskusia a zástupcovia jednotlivých častí verejnosti dokonca nedostali pred zasadnutím komisie, na ktorom sa malo o zvýšení poplatkov hlasovať, informácie o zámere zvýšiť poplatok a už vôbec nie o úrovni požadovaného zvýšenia.

Členovia komisie dostali 26. augusta informáciu o konaní zasadania komisie 21. septembra aj s návrhom programu, v ktorom sa uvádzal bod "Úprava ročného poplatku za doménu .sk". Až do zasadnutia komisie ale členovia nedostali žiadnu konkrétnu informáciu alebo podklady a minimálne zástupca registrátorov Ondrej Jombík predpokladal, že vzhľadom na zvýšenie počtu domén by mohlo ísť o návrh zníženia poplatku.

Na zasadnutí komisie ale SK-NIC navrhol zvýšenie ročného poplatku za doménu až o 30% zo súčasných 10 eur bez DPH na 13 eur bez DPH. O návrhu na zvýšenie poplatku už od začiatku budúceho roka sa malo už na tomto zasadnutí komisie aj hlasovať a podľa dostupných informácií zástupca ministerstva informatizácie už dával hlasovať, na návrh zástupcu registrátorov sa nakoniec hlasovanie odložilo.

Zvýšenie cien by musela schváliť nadpolovičná polovica členov komisie, teda minimálne štyria zo siedmich. Dvoch zástupcov má SK-NIC, dvoch štát a troch verejnosť.

Podľa zápisnice zo zasadnutia boli niektorí členovia komisie po odložení hlasovania poverení dodaním ďalších informácií. Zástupca registrátorov mal zistiť postoj registrátorov k zvyšovaniu poplatkov, ktorý už zistil a dopadol absolútne jednoznačne. Z 20 najväčších registrátorov sa niektorí z druhej desiatky nevyjadrili, celkovo sa vyjadrilo 15 registrátorov. Z týchto 15 odmietlo 14 registrátorov zvýšenie poplatku o 30% aj o 20%, jeden zaujal neutrálne stanovisko. Zvýšenie o 10% odmietlo úplne 12 z 15 registrátorov, jeden ho odmietol ale súhlasil by ak by sa zvýšili prostriedky poskytované SK-NIC-om na spoločensky hodnotné projekty, jeden zaujal neutrálne stanovisko a jeden pozitívne ale pod podmienkou, že v nasledujúcich rokoch sa cena zvyšovať nebude.

Pri súčasnom modeli prevádzky národnej domény SK-NIC-u za prevádzku domény .sk zostávajú všetky poplatky za domény od registrátorov, spoločnosť musí iba 5% z výnosov použiť na podporu projektov rozvoja slovenskej digitálnej ekonomiky. V minulom roku dosiahli výnosy SK-NIC približne 4 milióny eur, tento rok budú zrejme ešte výrazne vyššie, keďže od polovice minulého roka prišlo k zvýšeniu poplatku za prvý rok registrácie nových domén na 10 eur rovnako ako pri ďalších rokoch a zároveň sa zvyšuje počet registrovaných domén.

Vzhľadom na vzťah a zmluvu medzi štátom a SK-NIC-om sa nikdy nezisťovali odôvodnené náklady a efektívna cena za prevádzku .sk domény verejnou súťažou, na základe zmluvy ju musí prevádzkovať SK-NIC. Zároveň minimálne v poslednej dobe zrejme neboli odôvodnené náklady a efektívna cena zistené ani inými spôsobmi, napríklad nejakou kvalifikovanou analýzou, alebo minimálne takáto analýza nebola zverejnená.




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